# [OmniOS-discuss] Hello world, and some newcomers questions :)

Theo Schlossnagle jesus at omniti.com
Fri Aug 2 17:36:03 UTC 2013

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    On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Jim Klimov <jimklimov at cos.ru> wrote:

    > Hello Theo, thanks for the prompt reply!
    >
    >
    > On 2013-08-02 17:20, Theo Schlossnagle wrote:
    >
    >> On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 7:44 AM, Jim Klimov <jimklimov at cos.ru
    >> <mailto:jimklimov at cos.ru>> wrote:
    >> That's a subjective question.  I'd imagine it looks quite similar to
    >> some and starkly different to others.
    >>
    >
    > Right... well, to put it another way: I have rehearsed the procedure
    > to update older OpenSolaris SXCE servers to OpenIndiana before that
    > project stalled (and then became too experimental), and while some
    > servers can wait a few years more, others would quite benefit from
    > an OS upgrade. If I've figured out the needed procedure for OI, would
    > I likely easily adapt and reuse it for OmniOS, or should I expect to
    > learn a lot of new stuff and restart rehearsing from scratch? :^)

    We don't use incorporations and consolidations the same way. So, the
    procedure will most certainly be different.

    >  No shipped X at all, not enough to run X stuff in anyway.  You can,
    >> however, get X pkgs from pkgsrc.
    >>
    >
    > Uh-huh... and is there an install-ready IPS repo of pkgsrc provided
    > by OmniTI (or at least recommended, even if maintained by some other
    > team), along with occasional updates of software in the repo?
    >
    > Sorry for this particular lame question, I guess I just did not get
    > too far through the docs yet :\

    http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.omnios.general/640

    >
    >         If I build my own ZFS-root image for the networked installer, can
    >> it
    >>     involve a hierarchy of several datasets or just one root FS dataset?
    >>
    >>
    >> Not as a baked in feature, but there is post-install scripting available
    >> and you could easily make that happen without modifying kayak. (just zfs
    >> recv the extra data sets over the network after the rpool is recv'd).  I
    >> think you'll be pleasantly surprised by the simplicity and power of kayak.
    >>
    >
    > And is that all received as a "zfs-send" stream packed into a file?
    > I mean, are there any limitations in Kayak today that would limit an
    > ability to receive a "replication" stream which already includes a
    > hierarchy of datasets? In a simple case - a hierarchy rooted under
    > one common root filesystem dataset - for example, rpool/ROOT/rootfs
    > and rpool/ROOT/rootfs/var (and maybe some split usr/ and opt/)?..
    > I would likely need scripted receiving for my other half of the
    > general setup - the rpool/SHARED/var/* datasets (logs, mail, etc.)
    > to be common across different BEs.

    I've never tried. I see no reason it couldn't work.

    --

    Theo Schlossnagle

    http://omniti.com/is/theo-schlossnagle
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